Aye, I just read the article. First ones will be produced over here too. ;)
250 miles, but is that using all the other electrics too? It's a decent range, but not as good as a deisel engine. And with a 3.5 hour recharge, it may be a little impractical. But then it is a supercar I suppose, they aren't supposed to be practical. ;)
Practical enough for my purposes, certainly, it's not like I make any journeys by road that are over 250 miles anyway!. I hate smart cars with a fiery passion, and besides, smart cars aren't that much smaller or lighter than an elise anyway, and have much worse aerodynamics, so I doubt it would make much difference other than the price.
Aye; but that's the way to get the ball rolling, the first practical decent ranged electric car that is affordable plus that can go over 30 mph shock horror, maybe even do 60-70 will be a winner.
But I'd still be more interested if it could charge in 45 minutes on a 200A three-phase.
This is an interesting development, but I can't help feeling Toyota's got the right idea with its Prius and related Lexus models. The hybrid petrol-electric system makes for far fewer compromises. If they were to add a charger socket, so short journeys around town could be done with no petrol, then as technology improved gradually increase the electric range while shrinking the petrol motor, they'd likely get to the same place as those guys are aiming for… without going bankrupt in the meantime. (-8
But I'd still be more interested if it could charge in 45 minutes on a 200A three-phase.
Little chance, batteries tend to very sensitive to internal damage if you try and charge them too fast. Typically 1/3 of total amphour capacity in amps, which would tally with a 3.5 hour charge.
It's sometimes possible to get around that by having a lot of individual cells in the battery, and arranging that the charging topology is far more parallel than the discharge.
But I suspect they'll already be using that trick to get 20kW up the battery.
The trouble is, your average petrol pump can "recharge" a car at a rate of 30MW. That's a discrepancy of over three orders of magnitude, and they really have to do something about it!
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Date: 2006-07-20 03:07 pm (UTC)An electric car that has the damn fine looks of an Elise, and can do around 130mph? If that gets good range on a charge, I'll take one!
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Date: 2006-07-20 03:12 pm (UTC)Range is 250 miles apparently, 3 1/2 hour recharge.
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Date: 2006-07-20 03:15 pm (UTC)250 miles, but is that using all the other electrics too? It's a decent range, but not as good as a deisel engine. And with a 3.5 hour recharge, it may be a little impractical. But then it is a supercar I suppose, they aren't supposed to be practical. ;)
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Date: 2006-07-20 03:18 pm (UTC)Batteries are getting better, as they say, bundle this into something like a smartcar and bingo theres the low market.
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Date: 2006-07-20 04:01 pm (UTC)Plus 70A at 3 1/2 hours, how much is that going to cost?
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Date: 2006-07-20 04:47 pm (UTC)The article says "Range: 250 miles. Fuel efficiency: 1 to 2 cents per mile." which matches up.
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Date: 2006-07-20 05:11 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-07-20 05:57 pm (UTC)But I'd still be more interested if it could charge in 45 minutes on a 200A three-phase.
This is an interesting development, but I can't help feeling Toyota's got the right idea with its Prius and related Lexus models. The hybrid petrol-electric system makes for far fewer compromises. If they were to add a charger socket, so short journeys around town could be done with no petrol, then as technology improved gradually increase the electric range while shrinking the petrol motor, they'd likely get to the same place as those guys are aiming for… without going bankrupt in the meantime. (-8
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Date: 2006-07-21 10:00 am (UTC)Little chance, batteries tend to very sensitive to internal damage if you try and charge them too fast. Typically 1/3 of total amphour capacity in amps, which would tally with a 3.5 hour charge.
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Date: 2006-07-21 10:12 am (UTC)But I suspect they'll already be using that trick to get 20kW up the battery.
The trouble is, your average petrol pump can "recharge" a car at a rate of 30MW. That's a discrepancy of over three orders of magnitude, and they really have to do something about it!
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Date: 2006-07-21 10:38 am (UTC)Apologies for not making it last night; parental visit :(
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Date: 2006-07-21 10:44 am (UTC)By the way, what sort of big fish?
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Date: 2006-07-21 10:50 am (UTC)It's a hefty piece of Cod; if you're lucky I may even add vegetables to it!
Anything except orange I should avoid?
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Date: 2006-07-21 11:32 am (UTC)Morris Dancing, incest and 80s music! :P
Now don't be sad...
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