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Is zen when you believe what you accept or when you accept what you believe:?

Date: 2005-09-04 09:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mazzarc.livejournal.com
both and neither.

Date: 2005-09-05 11:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robinbloke.livejournal.com
Aye and ar.

Date: 2005-09-05 11:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robinbloke.livejournal.com
Probably :)

Date: 2005-09-04 11:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dmh.livejournal.com
The ancients had a lot of complications to help you,
Such as Xuefeng’s saying,
“The whole earth is you,” Jiashan’s saying,
“Pick out the teacher in the hundred grasses;
recognize the emperor in a bustling market place.”
Take these up and think about them over and over again;
Eventually, over time, you will naturally find a way to penetrate.
No one can substitute for you in this task;
It rests with each individual, without exception.”

- Yunmen (d. 949)

Date: 2005-09-05 11:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robinbloke.livejournal.com
It rests with each individual, without exception.

Ar, since what I'm considering her is exclusion of everything save self this makes a lot of sense.

Date: 2005-09-05 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dmh.livejournal.com
What I teach people just
Requires you not to take
On the confusion of others.
Act when necessary,
Without further hesitation or doubt.
When students today do not attain this,
Wherein lies their sickness?
The sickness is in not
Trusting yourself.
If your inner trust is insufficient,
Then you will frantically go along
With changes in situations,
And will be influenced and
Affected by myriad objects,
Unable to be independent.
If you can stop the mentality
Of constant frantic seeking,
Then you are no different
From Zen masters and Buddhas.

- Linji (d. 866)

Date: 2005-09-05 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robinbloke.livejournal.com
I often quote myself. It adds spice to my conversation.

-George Bernard Shaw

;)

Date: 2005-09-04 01:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-mendicant.livejournal.com
I think you deserved those answers!

Date: 2005-09-05 11:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robinbloke.livejournal.com
Anything to make my head hurt! :)

Date: 2005-09-04 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whotheheckami.livejournal.com
Aardvark and shrew

Date: 2005-09-05 12:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] siranui.livejournal.com
I suppose the obvious answer is "Mu", and a slap in the face.

However, going a little deeper, I would say that it is niether.

Date: 2005-09-05 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robinbloke.livejournal.com
The "Mu" has me saying, mwhaaat?

Date: 2005-09-05 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] siranui.livejournal.com
That's the point :o)

It actually translates as 'has not', 'absence' or 'lacks'.

...but that's not the point.

Date: 2005-09-05 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robinbloke.livejournal.com
I wiki'd for it ;) Hmmm, nice phrase.
Still it is as you make it...

Date: 2005-09-06 08:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] siranui.livejournal.com
Basically, 'Mu' as a Koan answer technically means 'This question is not actually relevant' or 'moot point'. It's also a typical 'shock answer', delivered sharply.

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