Date: 2005-03-03 09:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crocodilewings.livejournal.com
Am I the only person who thinks taxing for ownership of something is a bit off? As far as I'm aware, in the UK we're only taxed on sources of income or for things that make use of public resources, which, all in all, makes sense.

Date: 2005-03-03 10:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scy11a.livejournal.com
Well, the TV Licence Fee applies only to ownership of a telelvision. They don't take kindly to the claim that you only watch DVDs / videos / commercial channels : )

Date: 2005-03-03 11:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fellcat.livejournal.com
I think that the idea is that you are paying for the opportunity/ability to watch BBC channels. If then you don't use that opportunity, that's not their business.

Date: 2005-03-03 01:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scy11a.livejournal.com
Unless, of course, you only watch the BBC channels using battery power - then there's no fee *confused*

Date: 2005-03-03 01:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robinbloke.livejournal.com
Does a UPS count as a battery for this? :)

Date: 2005-03-03 01:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scy11a.livejournal.com
United Postal System???

Date: 2005-03-03 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robinbloke.livejournal.com
Uninterruptable Power Supply.

A battery backed power system.

Date: 2005-03-03 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fellcat.livejournal.com
The battery-operated bit is to allow people to take a TV on holiday without having to obtain a separate license for their holiday address, although the wording of the law means that students whose permanent address is their parent(')s(') house are still covered by their parent(')s(') TV license as long as the TV they have at uni is battery-powered.

The batteries have to be enclosed within the casing of the TV set, so no you can't use an UPS, and there still has to be a TV licence registered to the household you technically live as part of.

Date: 2005-03-03 03:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robinbloke.livejournal.com
Well I don't watch TV but I do use their website a lot, so I'm not that bothered.

Date: 2005-03-03 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atreic.livejournal.com
You can take the relavent recieving bits out of your telly and watch DVDs and Videos and not pay the license, but just watching commercial tv is out.

Date: 2005-03-04 10:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scy11a.livejournal.com
I think you'd have trouble proving that when the detector van came around. Although [livejournal.com profile] drpyrojames had a visit and got away with it as his TV (sson to be chucked) was buried unused under a pile of junk under a desk in a closet covered in dust. A pretty good case not to be using it. Either that or they scarpered when he threatened to ignite them with liquid oxygen ; )

Date: 2005-03-04 11:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] robinbloke.livejournal.com
hehe, ah the joys of being a pyromancer

Date: 2005-03-03 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crocodilewings.livejournal.com
If you physically disable its capacity to receive TV signals, it's kosher. It's no different to having a car but not keeping it on the road.

Well, it is different, with the lack of wheels, and being towed away to be crushed, but conceptually it's not a million miles away.

Date: 2005-03-03 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deliberateblank.livejournal.com
Council Tax.
VED (even if you end up never driving it).

VAT is also technically not tax on a source of income (given that the buyer and not the seller pays it.)

You get taxed on whatever they think they can get away with taxing.

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