Musicial abuse
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robinblokeRandom bimbling brought my mind around to the following conclusion;
Every type of music has a stereotypical form of abuse of some kind associated with it;
For example... (being tongue in cheek here bucko)
Rock n' Roll: Cocaine
Country and Western: Alcohol
Rap: Firearms
Gothic: Eyeliner
Trance: Any kind of stimulant
Religious: Choirboys
Blues: SO's.
any others...?
Every type of music has a stereotypical form of abuse of some kind associated with it;
For example... (being tongue in cheek here bucko)
Rock n' Roll: Cocaine
Country and Western: Alcohol
Rap: Firearms
Gothic: Eyeliner
Trance: Any kind of stimulant
Religious: Choirboys
Blues: SO's.
any others...?
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Date: 2003-02-21 05:47 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2003-02-21 05:48 am (UTC)Thrash - the audiences body's
Wierd ass blues - lsd
Pop - the gullability of the buying public (Die Gareth Gates, DIE!!)
Pyschobilly - hair gel
Glam - Hair spray
Funk - sunglasses / bass guitars
Tom Waits - His throat
NU-Metal - Trousers
English country music - cider and trad beer
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Date: 2003-02-21 05:52 am (UTC)Not before everyone's had a chance to hear 'Spirit In The Sky'. It's so godawful it's brilliant.
Glam - Hair spray
See, I say "Goth - hair spray" and "Glam - bacofoil"...
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Date: 2003-02-21 05:56 am (UTC)Only a few things that are BAD can be good (Monkey, The A-Team... etc)
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Date: 2003-02-21 05:58 am (UTC)Monkey is not good. Monkey is not good. Monkey is not good. Monkey is not good.
If I say it enough times will I get *anyone* to believe it? ~sigh~
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Date: 2003-02-21 05:59 am (UTC)???
Okay, I listen to some godawfully music like that but this travisty goes beyond anything else that has even been considered Ironically good.
Its not kitch, its not ironic, its not retro or anything like that. Its just terrible. Its just taking a classic song and castrating it for the soul purpose of pop consumerbility and innoffenciveness. Its not like Laze against the machine or Mike Flowers or even Steps doing BeeGee reworks (well, kinda reworks. more direct copies). I think I even have more respect for the A-Teens than for this bastards heartless anihallation of a classic floor-filler.
Accept it - this guy could make Dissident Aggressor sound like a milkshake add for some company with the word 'mama' or 'babycare' in it.
*ahem*
or to put it another way: you have your opinion and I respect that but I believe your view to be invalid and based on false assumption ;-)
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Date: 2003-02-21 06:10 am (UTC)Nobody would ever have heard of it after 1979, except as an obcure one-hit-wonder, were it not for Dr. And The Medics. And I don't for one minute believe that anyone would claim the Dr's reworking of it is a piece of musical genius - it's just, as you point out, a very silly floor-filler. 'Ghostbusters' is not a classic. Nor is 'Doctorin' The Tardis'.
It *is* kitsch. It was kitsch when the Doctors did it. It's also only pandering to pop consumerism to the same extent as Band Aid was, since it's the official Comic Relief song.
I do not agree with what you say, but I defend to the death your right to be entirely misguided and wrong. ;)
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Date: 2003-02-21 06:26 am (UTC)Quite possibly. Though Wizard did have a couple of other hits iirc
And I don't for one minute believe that anyone would claim the Dr's reworking of it is a piece of musical genius - it's just, as you point out, a very silly floor-filler.
genius? no, most likly not. However it works very well as a high spirited bit of rock-pop. It has power, it has soul, it has a laugh.
The Gareth Gates version is vasuouse and without any feeling or spirit. That, for me, is where the big difference is between the two and that is why the GG version is pants useless. Its the musical version of fully skimmed milk or low fat coco free cholcolate.
Nor is 'Doctorin' The Tardis'.
hurm... Depends how you view it. Doctorin The Tardis is considered a classic of pop manipulation / conceptual performance art, it is rather in a different league / game to DatM kicking out an old rocker track.
It *is* kitsch. It was kitsch when the Doctors did it.
I was refering to Kitsch in an enjoyable manner, not just dull and naff
It's also only pandering to pop consumerism to the same extent as Band Aid was, since it's the official Comic Relief song.
Listen to Band Aid again. Listen to those vocals, the tune. Feel it. It had something going for it. It may not have been the most wonderful tune ever or the most intelligent lyrics but it had something there, something raw and powerful. Something that made the song work on a level beyond just being for charity. No, I dont think it was the 2nd coming or anything but it did have power and soul.
Now listen to SITS by Gareth...
Its a bit like compareing fine steake to old soap
I do not agree with what you say, but I defend to the death your right to be entirely misguided and wrong. ;)
as I heartily endorse your right make a prat of yourself for the viewing public ;-p
My boots are pointier than yours, so there.
Date: 2003-02-21 12:15 pm (UTC)As pointed out below, 'tis not Wizard, 'tis Norman Greenbaum. Wizard rock. :)
and without any feeling or spirit
The only feeling and/or spirit the Medics' version had was one of "let's make fun of this absurd song, and wear silly trousers". Which is exactly the same as the spirit behind Gareth's version, only replace "trousers" with "hair".
I hardly think the Doctors believed in the true Christian message of the song, do you? I saw an interview with them where they revealed original plans to change the line "Gotta have a friend in Jesus" to "Gotta have a friend in Brighton"...~g~
You've got a point about Band Aid, I think DTKIC? is a fantastic song with much more heart and power and musical ability and all sorts of good things than Spirit In The Sky - but that wasn't my point. My point was that the Band Aid single was born out of the same broad idea as having a Comic Relief single - it's for charity, how can we get people to buy it, oh yes, have famous people involved. (I know that Band Aid was different really, but nevertheless, it was broadly the same concept of "people listen to celebrities".) And it's the Comic Relief single, so it doesn't need to have massive amounts of raw soul, it just needs to make people laugh, really, and have a catchy tune so people remember it when they're in record shops.
as I heartily endorse your right make a prat of yourself for the viewing public ;-p
You're too kind, but you know, they're only here to watch you lose. ~grin~
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Date: 2003-02-21 06:18 am (UTC)Well..I suppose it is the only song to be used directly to finance a chicken farm.
Norman Greenbaum....
Hmm...
Robert
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Date: 2003-02-21 06:28 am (UTC)and yeah, okay, maybe 'classic' is too strong. 'classic for its time'?
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Date: 2003-02-21 06:41 am (UTC)My understanding is that, when money got tight in the 1980's, he allowed Dr and The Medics to cover it, bailing out the Chicken farm.
He has a website at www.spiritinthesky.com
Voila.
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Date: 2003-02-21 07:01 am (UTC)Tori Amos: No-one knows what Tori Amos is on, but if you could duplicate it, you could make millions.
Prog. rock: Anything and everything they can find. Including baking powder.
EBM: Speed, definitely
Evangelical: Crack
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Date: 2003-02-21 09:48 am (UTC)Metal: mirrors
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Date: 2003-02-21 09:50 am (UTC)are you about on the saturday night and not up to anything interesting? *is in cambs and wants to meet up wi th people for a drink or something*
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Date: 2003-02-21 10:33 am (UTC)erm, will try extract myself for the evening to say Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!
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