Mini Zen moment
Jan. 7th, 2002 09:08 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
I just realised something (It's taken a while)
Life is about trying to understand people.
Life is also about realising that sometimes you can't.
Life is about trying to understand people.
Life is also about realising that sometimes you can't.
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Date: 2002-01-07 01:19 am (UTC)I'm going back to maths, life is going to be entirely classified in logical puzzles. That way at least I know theres an equatable solution that is explainable, with working in the margins for extra marks.
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Date: 2002-01-07 01:26 am (UTC)And yes, it is horribly confusing, which is why most people don't think this deeply about anything.
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Date: 2002-01-07 01:43 am (UTC)Understanding thought, I would think is a key to understanding yourself, but is that a step to a different kind of understanding? Rather than understanding yourself are you understanding the processes that make yourself?
Good note on the mirror and what you are yourself there, I'd not thought of things in that way before, although maybe similarly a little here and there.
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Date: 2002-01-07 02:09 am (UTC)If we can't accept our own thoughts as being part of us, how can we expect other people to accept us on any level?
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Date: 2002-01-07 02:22 am (UTC)As you also say, it can give a lot of self-understanding, but it can lead to a lot of false ends, in understanding your thoughts there will be a lot of static that although perhaps interesting may not form a significant part of your mindset, but if you start examining it and trying to understand it you give a greater part of your mind to that way of thought or idea, because you learn about it or understand it more.
So perhaps ironically I think, introspection actually can change who you are when you actually attempt to find out about yourself, but the time you understand something you're not the person who started examining the idea or thought in the first place.
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Date: 2002-01-07 02:36 am (UTC)But do you think you become a more complete person for the introspection, or do you lose a certain something by defining things that were maybe never meant to be defined?
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Date: 2002-01-07 02:40 am (UTC)By useing bronze as a mirror you can adjuust your hat and clothes.
By useing histroy as a mirror you can know the rise and fall of empires.
By useing man a s a mirror you can know your virtues and srrors
I *think* that's Tai Cong, or Li Bo. Someone from the Tang dinisty.
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Date: 2002-01-07 02:08 am (UTC)Perhaps there content. Perhaps they have no need to. Perhaps they have come to self realisation and enlightenment. Perhaps they have discovered the essence of the Tao. Perhaps they don't feel like they need to try and understand what many would consider something which is impossiable to understand. Perhaps they do think this deeply, we just don't notice. Perhaps they have traveled full circle, as in Zen belief.
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Date: 2002-01-07 02:21 am (UTC)I just have a burning need to question everything, and make everything question itself.
Losing the need to understand is not something I'm any where near losing....not sure I want to.
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Date: 2002-01-07 02:44 am (UTC)Thank you . :-)
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Date: 2002-01-07 03:51 am (UTC)But, yeah, just because people don't talk about stuff like this doesn't mean that they don't think about it -- but introspection without the benefit of talking or writing about it is often flawed, I find, as you get too wrapped up in the puzzle to see the answer.
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Date: 2002-01-07 03:57 am (UTC)This statement makes no sense. The second part admits that you have never achieved it, and are therfor unable to comment on how it feels, and yet the first part describes how it feels. Don't knock it untill you've tried it. but, if the term is upsetting you, perhaps enlightnment would sit with you better?
but introspection without the benefit of talking or writing about it is often flawed
Think it depends on cirtin things. After all descart gave us one of the most famous philosophical statements, "I think, therfor I am", after shutting himself away from everyone. Depends what your trying to discover. Personally I think that introsepction without observing the outside woruld is a bad idea, hence my earlier mirror quote.
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Date: 2002-01-07 05:04 am (UTC)The concept of contentment/perfection represents to me an end to struggling and strife, things which I consider fundamental to the way I am.
Plus, I have a good imagination.
Enlightenment as self-comprehension I can sort of see, but, again, once you understand yourself you understand the world cos the world's based on your perception of it.Thus, there's nothing left to understand...which'd suck.
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Date: 2002-01-07 02:01 am (UTC)Derek is not the murderer on the left.
Nigel used the brothel next to the one Cynthia lived in.
Neither Mohammed not Dharmash are traffic wardens.
I used to love doing those things.
Zen puzzle
Date: 2002-01-07 02:35 am (UTC)Liam is Toms cousin.
Paul is Nigels brother
Sue is Joes best friend.
Tom is Nigels dad.
Who are you?
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Date: 2002-01-07 02:38 am (UTC)Paul - Nigel
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Date: 2002-01-07 02:40 am (UTC)¦ ¦
Tom Liam
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Paul - Nigel
Me.
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