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robinbloke ([personal profile] robinbloke) wrote2003-11-13 11:13 am

Sequels...

Thinking of films now.

Think think think.

Back to sequels again, I will up my respectable sequel count now to a tentative three; these being... (in order of respectability)

Alien/Aliens
X-Men/X2
Batman/Batman returns

Are there any other sequels that are at least as respectable as the first? And no, I don't count (from my own point of view at least) Reloaded in this. Also films definately pre-planned as multiple releases don't count (Qv. Kill Bill, Lord of the Rings)

[identity profile] borusa.livejournal.com 2003-11-13 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
The Godfather/The Godfather 2
ANH/ESB
Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure and Bogus Journey

[identity profile] adze.livejournal.com 2003-11-13 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
ANH/ESB

Damn, beaten to it...

[identity profile] adze.livejournal.com 2003-11-13 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
Star Wars: A New Hope

and

Star Wars: The Empires Strikes Back

[identity profile] robinbloke.livejournal.com 2003-11-13 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
Ah the joy of newly encountered TLA's.

[identity profile] karohemd.livejournal.com 2003-11-13 09:46 am (UTC)(link)
ANH/ESB
Erm, Robin said, preplanned sequences don't count...

[identity profile] borusa.livejournal.com 2003-11-13 11:01 am (UTC)(link)
I dispute the (widely held) belief that the sequels were planned. I can believe that some of the back-story was worked out, but Star Wars : A New Hope was such a departure and such an uncertain thing that I can't believe that it was intended to make the sequels, even if Lucas had a rough idea about what was to be in them.

Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones bear that out - whilst the general sweep may have been planned, it doesn't stand up that the plots were sorted in any detail at all.

[identity profile] davywavy.livejournal.com 2003-11-13 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
Addams Family Values.

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

[identity profile] sherbetsaucers.livejournal.com 2003-11-13 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
Desperado perhaps. Neked Gun 2 and a half definetly. T2. Dunno if you're counting the Scream stuff. Haloween II perhaps. I would say that Die hard with a venegence is better than Die hard II, Die harder. Same comment regarding Back to the Future 2 and 3. For A Few Dollas More is far superious to A Fist Full, in my opinion. Leathel Wepons arn't bad and let us not forget Dr Jones!

Re: I find your lack of faith disturbing.

[identity profile] robinbloke.livejournal.com 2003-11-13 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
Scream I wouldn't count as a good film in the first place; but that's personal preference ;)
T2... good point indeed.
Dr. Jones, of course... so much for they don't make decent sequels! Must buy that DVD set :)

Re: I find your lack of faith disturbing.

[identity profile] crocodilewings.livejournal.com 2003-11-13 05:06 am (UTC)(link)
I second Desperado. Once Upon a Time in Mexico is possibly better than the first.

Mission Impossible/MI2? The second definitely surpasses the first.

[identity profile] nisaba.livejournal.com 2003-11-13 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
Desperado is the sequel to El Mariachi, Once Upon A Time in Mexico is the third of the series, and yes they all rock (although I like the first two the best myself).

[identity profile] crocodilewings.livejournal.com 2003-11-13 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
By means of starting a deviant thread, how about good films where the sequels were particularly abysmal?

To kick this one off, I suggest The Crow: City of Angels, and Highlander II.

[identity profile] robinbloke.livejournal.com 2003-11-13 05:46 am (UTC)(link)
Far, far too many of these...

[identity profile] twentypence.livejournal.com 2003-11-13 06:58 am (UTC)(link)
I'd definately say T2 and Godfather personally.
I've also heard good things from a friend about Bad Boys II, but then he is a Will Smith fanatic so he might be slightly biased.

Now to work out whether sequels are on the whole better or worse, you need to ask of the worst sequels that people can think of.
My contributions to that would be From Dusk till Dawn II: Texas Blood Money and Universal Soldier 2: Straight to TV!

[identity profile] robinbloke.livejournal.com 2003-11-13 07:05 am (UTC)(link)
Without a doubt, for me at least, the worse is Highlander II

[identity profile] dennyd.livejournal.com 2003-11-14 11:04 am (UTC)(link)
Seconded.

I preferred T2 to the first one though, in fact that's what I came in here to post. Sorry, does that make me some kind of philistine? :)

Sad i know

[identity profile] sue-b.livejournal.com 2003-11-13 09:31 am (UTC)(link)
Interview with a vampire /queen of the dammed.